XP vs milestone advancement (plus an easy way to calculate XP for roleplaying )
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You have to be some kind of supergenius to calculate XP, right? Well, hang on a minute. |
But that "one-shot series" structure means that I can't really use milestone advancement, which is my go-to progression variant in 5th Edition. But luckily, the 5e rules provide some handy tools for awarding XP — even if they don't always spell out how to use them outside of killing monsters (more on that later!).
Milestones vs. story-based advancement
It seems like most people are using "milestone advancement" to mean awarding the party a level advancement for major plot-based accomplishments. That's the way I'm using the term, as well, but the DMG actually calls it "Story-Based Advancement" on Page 261. A little higher up on the page, there's a "Milestones" header, but that's talking about awarding XP when PCs reach minor and major plot points, not throwing XP and advancing the party whole levels at a time. But again, just so everyone's on the same page, when I talk about milestones in this article, I'm talking about a system without XP.I <3 Milestones
Before I get too far, let me say: I love milestone advancement, and I'm not alone in that. It seems to be very popular with the DMs I encounter in forums, and even D&D Lead Designer Mike Mearls says it's his preferred method. It's described on page 261 of the Dungeon Master's Guide (not under "Milestones," ironically, but under "Story-Based Advancement"). Here's the quick version: Throw XP right out the window and level up your party every few sessions when you feel they've accomplished something level-worthy.It's a great system because it's simple and it can reinforce the feeling that you've accomplished something at the end of a chapter. There's a lot less tallying kills and adding up XP at the end of an encounter or a session. It gives the DM more control over how fast the party levels, and at the same time it's a good way to avoid the feeling that players sometimes get that XP is arbitrary. Players can especially feel this way when DMs balance their games to award XP for combat but not for successful roleplaying or exploration encounters.
The wisdom of XP
Milestone leveling has its drawbacks, though. One of the beauties of 5th Edition's "bounded accuracy" design philosophy is that mixed-level parties aren't as problematic as they used to be. But milestone leveling works best when the party is kept at the same level regardless of how many sessions individual players attend — otherwise, if one player can't make it to a milestone session, they'd be stuck behind the rest of the party even if that's the only week they'd ever missed.Some players prefer playing for XP, as well — milestones can feel arbitrary to players if it takes the party two sessions of RP to reach one milestone but six sessions of a grueling dungeon crawl to reach another. With XP, a goblin is worth 50 XP regardless of plot shenanigans like how quickly you're able to guess which NPCs are secretly werewolves plotting to overthrow the kingdom. (OK, that's a bad example. PCs are notoriously good at guessing which NPCs are secretly evil.)
A built-in feature of the XP system is the ability to for characters to catch up with higher-level companions. Since higher levels are worth way more points, lower-level adventurers are going to advance more quickly than higher-level adventurers getting the same XP.
The upshot? As long as you're running a long campaign where the party roster's not really changing, milestone advancement is great. But if you want to plan drop-in drop-out adventures for people who can only attend when the babysitter's available or when they're not putting out house fires, XP has some clear advantages. Now you just have to learn how to use XP without also needing to learn how to use a slide rule.
EZ XP
While the DMG gives detailed instructions on how to award XP for combat encounters, it's not super clear on how to do it for roleplaying and exploration challenges. It basically just says to use the the combat guidelines as a starting point. But it's easy — you just take a look at the "XP Thresholds by Character Level" table (DMG 82, also included at the bottom of this article). Pick how hard you think the encounter was and grant each player the XP listed for the highest-level character (or the party's average level, but I like using the highest level because it's less math and increases the XP catch-up effect). That's it.You can also use this skip-some-steps approach for combat situations, and I recommend that you do. If you only have a few hours to prepare for a session, an hour spent tweaking an encounter so it's exactly the right XP is an hour you can't spend on something your players are going to enjoy more than that kind of precision. And even when you add up all the monsters' XP and crank it through the encounter multiplier and determine the difficulty threshold for the players who are probably going to be there that night, you're still only just inside the ballpark. There's a host of things like terrain, tactics, creature abilities and synergies that the rules-as-written method for creating encounters and awarding XP don't account for. It's a worthwhile effort to learn how to build encounters using XP, but once you have a feel for the process, it's better to spend less time trying to fine-tune a system that's built for variety and happy accidents, not precision.
My one-shot approach
For my one-shots, I'm just taking the XP it will take the highest-level character to advance an entire level and dividing it by the number of sessions I want it to take players to reach that level. For example, if my highest-level character is Level 4, I'd award 950 XP for the one-shot, because it takes 3,800 XP to advance from Level 4 to Level 5 and I want it to take characters four sessions to advance from 4 to 5. I can adjust that XP reward up or down depending on how much they accomplished, or since I'm structuring most of my one-shots around the 5-room dungeon model, I can divide the 950 by 5 to get XP per encounter. I don't want to do this math every time I sit down, so I made my own table.So it takes a little bit of prep and maybe printing out some tables, but using XP isn't quite as daunting as it may seem. And it does have clear advantages when you want characters to advance independently.
Character Level | Easy | Medium | Hard | Deadly |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 25 | 50 | 75 | 100 |
2 | 50 | 100 | 150 | 200 |
3 | 75 | 150 | 225 | 400 |
4 | 125 | 250 | 375 | 500 |
5 | 250 | 500 | 750 | 1,100 |
6 | 300 | 600 | 900 | 1,400 |
7 | 350 | 750 | 1,100 | 1,700 |
8 | 450 | 900 | 1,400 | 2,100 |
9 | 550 | 1,100 | 1,600 | 2,400 |
10 | 600 | 1,200 | 1,900 | 2,800 |
11 | 800 | 1,600 | 2,400 | 3,600 |
12 | 1,000 | 2,000 | 3,000 | 4,500 |
13 | 1,100 | 2,200 | 3,400 | 5,100 |
14 | 1,250 | 2,500 | 3,800 | 5,700 |
15 | 1,400 | 2,800 | 4,300 | 6,400 |
16 | 1,600 | 3,200 | 4,800 | 7,200 |
17 | 2,000 | 3,900 | 5,900 | 8,800 |
18 | 2,100 | 4,200 | 6,300 | 9,500 |
19 | 2,400 | 4,900 | 7,300 | 10,900 |
20 | 2,800 | 5,700 | 8,500 | 12,700 |
Level | XP per Day per Character |
---|---|
1 | 300 |
2 | 600 |
3 | 1,200 |
4 | 1,700 |
5 | 3,500 |
6 | 4,000 |
7 | 5,000 |
8 | 6,000 |
9 | 7,500 |
10 | 9,000 |
11 | 10,500 |
12 | 11,500 |
13 | 13,500 |
14 | 15,000 |
15 | 18,000 |
16 | 20,000 |
17 | 25,000 |
18 | 27,000 |
19 | 30,000 |
20 | 40,000 |
I blogged along similar themes the other day
ReplyDeletehttp://mythlands-erce.blogspot.dk/2017/07/against-funnel-of-game-balance-old.html?m=1
We currently use quest based awards at the moment and it works fine. I wouldn't say better than that though maybe it's as good as it gets. I'd prefer a method where xp awards are a real incentive for both the group and the individual, without having to rely on dm fiat. Xp for killing accomplishes that but sets a tone for the campaign that combat is where is at.
Gold for xp works really well, but only for traditional campaigns where treasure hauls is an expected outcome.
I think I am still looking for an xp incentive outside of those two that does not boil down to after-the-fact fiat.
Thanks! I've already read your post and really enjoyed it. Since I'm running those one-shots, loot is pretty much a possibility every session so I'm hoping to work out a good incentive framework between XP and loot. The only problem there is that it can be tricky in 5e to keep providing your players with stuff to spend money on!
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